@ Arizona State University

Diane and I travelled together to Arizona.  I spoke to a good audience at ASU about “The 8 Attributes of Sustainability Leadership.”  I received several questions about alternate plant proteins.  What do I  think of them?  Short answer, probably just a niche, but you never know. If McDonald’s can sell a lot  of it, I bet they will have it on their menu. We had lunch with Shelby Yastrow and his wife Sybil. Shelby is my hero. He hired me at McDonalds and mentored me.  He gave me my career for which I am so, so blessed and thankful.

With my wife Diane at Arizona State University. She is my partner in life now for 40 years!

Presenting at the campus of Arizona State University at their Memorial Union.